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09-14 07:22 PM
Immigration Paralysis (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=134837&postcount=852) By George Melloan (george.melloan@wsj.com) | Wall Street Journal, Jul 27 2007
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MeraNaamJoker
09-27 09:51 AM
I am waiting for 14 yrs.
Arrival 1996 Jan
F1 1996
EB3
GC filed 2003 Aug.
HAVE MS in US. But employer filed in EB3. STUCK
STILL WAITING FOR GREEN.
You should be able to switch from EB3 to EB2.
Put pressure on employer or get some other company (reputed one) to take a AC21 and start processing EB2.
Arrival 1996 Jan
F1 1996
EB3
GC filed 2003 Aug.
HAVE MS in US. But employer filed in EB3. STUCK
STILL WAITING FOR GREEN.
You should be able to switch from EB3 to EB2.
Put pressure on employer or get some other company (reputed one) to take a AC21 and start processing EB2.
gjoe
03-08 11:47 PM
I wish my predictions come true. Most of the time it does happen. BTW my PD is may2003 :)
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WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
09-04 08:14 PM
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i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
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i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
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unseenguy
02-08 05:24 AM
You need to take control of your family. The problem is that you allowed your inlaws to take control of your family. Second problem is that at the time of delivery the girl probably wanted her parents to come to US but you probably called your parents and she didnt like this nor did her parents. But that does not mean her parents will emotionally blackmail her.
1) You should tell your inlaws politely and candidly that they are interfering in your family and that needs to stop. Also communicate with your inlaws through your wife. Do not communicate with them directly. You did not marry them. They are no body to you, legally.
2) Your wife is under immense stress due to baby and parental pressure to control her. Her parents are trying to control your family through her. This is not the time to talk about separation because she has a young baby and she needs you as much as you need your baby. So you have to tell your wife what your inlaws are doing is not acceptable and just be firm that you will not tolerate it if she wants to live with you. And let her choose between her parents and you. This will be hard but you have to show some mental toughness.
3) When you got married , you started new family, you moved out of family of your parents. Though you dont have to break up with them, there may be some things that your parents do, that your wife does not like. You might think it is OK for your parents to advise or ask her to do things in certain fashion, but, it is NOT OK if she doesn't like it. She is a matured adult and can take care of her new family. So if you wish good of your parents, you have to "keep them at a safe distance." They should not interfere in your affairs.
4) You both husband and wife, need to handle each others parents in a matured way without insulting them. Both of you cant change your biological parents, but you can handle them diplomatically without insulting.
If this doesnt work, and you really want to separate, just tell your wife, that to allow things to cool down, you can live some place else for 3 months and assure her that you will take care of her and the baby. That will send a very clear message to your inlaws of the things to come. You just cant threaten to separate and run away.
Last, I do not know again how you treat your wife and inlaws. I dont mean to judge but do you treat them right? Why are they so desperate in this situation? Also I do not know any money transactions you have with inlaws, but, I would say, its not a good idea to involve inlaws in any kind of money. You invite 50% problems there.
Also I am confused, are you living in India or US?
1) You should tell your inlaws politely and candidly that they are interfering in your family and that needs to stop. Also communicate with your inlaws through your wife. Do not communicate with them directly. You did not marry them. They are no body to you, legally.
2) Your wife is under immense stress due to baby and parental pressure to control her. Her parents are trying to control your family through her. This is not the time to talk about separation because she has a young baby and she needs you as much as you need your baby. So you have to tell your wife what your inlaws are doing is not acceptable and just be firm that you will not tolerate it if she wants to live with you. And let her choose between her parents and you. This will be hard but you have to show some mental toughness.
3) When you got married , you started new family, you moved out of family of your parents. Though you dont have to break up with them, there may be some things that your parents do, that your wife does not like. You might think it is OK for your parents to advise or ask her to do things in certain fashion, but, it is NOT OK if she doesn't like it. She is a matured adult and can take care of her new family. So if you wish good of your parents, you have to "keep them at a safe distance." They should not interfere in your affairs.
4) You both husband and wife, need to handle each others parents in a matured way without insulting them. Both of you cant change your biological parents, but you can handle them diplomatically without insulting.
If this doesnt work, and you really want to separate, just tell your wife, that to allow things to cool down, you can live some place else for 3 months and assure her that you will take care of her and the baby. That will send a very clear message to your inlaws of the things to come. You just cant threaten to separate and run away.
Last, I do not know again how you treat your wife and inlaws. I dont mean to judge but do you treat them right? Why are they so desperate in this situation? Also I do not know any money transactions you have with inlaws, but, I would say, its not a good idea to involve inlaws in any kind of money. You invite 50% problems there.
Also I am confused, are you living in India or US?
gondalguru
07-11 02:11 PM
EB2 India and EB2 China will have same cut off dates. I recall reading the USCIS explanation (in one of those AILA - USCIS conference) regarding distribution of unused EB2 ROW numbers and they mentioned that they have to keep EB2 I-C same till those catagories become current.
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conchshell
08-13 04:44 PM
I started a thread couple of weeks back. It met an untimely death because of lack of participation from people. Just to revive your memory :
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
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psaxena
06-11 01:15 PM
Did you ever hear the proverb "quitters never win" and winners never quit.
Quit here go to Canada and then face some problems there and then quit canada. And then you will become the rolling stone which gathers no mass. Your family will be sick of your shifting then and no stabilization will cause more issues.
A friend of mine told me this one evening when I was really frustrated and was planning to quit my dream on being an entrepreneur and here I am now, and I think where I am right now is for the reason that I didn't quit that day and finally my product was liked by a company and they bought the product and offered me a job as well and then one thing lead to another and now I am settled with what I always wanted to do ( kinda not 100%) but its ok.
Instead of ruining our life running after GC, here are few options
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
Quit here go to Canada and then face some problems there and then quit canada. And then you will become the rolling stone which gathers no mass. Your family will be sick of your shifting then and no stabilization will cause more issues.
A friend of mine told me this one evening when I was really frustrated and was planning to quit my dream on being an entrepreneur and here I am now, and I think where I am right now is for the reason that I didn't quit that day and finally my product was liked by a company and they bought the product and offered me a job as well and then one thing lead to another and now I am settled with what I always wanted to do ( kinda not 100%) but its ok.
Instead of ruining our life running after GC, here are few options
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
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mohitb272
09-13 04:09 PM
You guys are awesome and it is because of people like you that I feel confident that the rally will be a SUCCESS! Alas, I wont be there since my FP date is the same. But I assure you that my contribution will not end here.
Best of luck guys!
Best of luck guys!
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Humhongekamyab
06-11 12:42 PM
Instead of ruining our life running after GC, here are few options
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
Let's stop wasting our time and pages on ALTERNATIVES (Canada, Australia, India, or timbaktu). Those who are serious about the alternatives just opt for those. We are here to fight our case for increased visa numbers and lets do that.
1) if you really want to live in a developed country, move to Canada or Australia. their process is much simpler and faster
2) cash out your investments and move to India. you might end up back in US on L1 :)
3) since some of us have had babies here, wait till they can sponsor you.
i have personally done 2 of the above. I have a Canadian PR and i have established contacts in India in case i need a job there. What am i doing here? saving as much money as i can, and waiting for the right opportunity in Canada or India. GC can kiss my ......., i got better things to do in life.
Let's stop wasting our time and pages on ALTERNATIVES (Canada, Australia, India, or timbaktu). Those who are serious about the alternatives just opt for those. We are here to fight our case for increased visa numbers and lets do that.
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MCQ
09-01 09:03 AM
Landed H1-B in March 1999 - Company A
H1-B transfer to Company B July 2000
Labour Applied April 2001 - Company B
I-485 Applied June 2002 - Company B
AC21 invoked February 2003 - Company C
GC Approved (after 2 RFE) November 2004 - Company C
N-400 Applied August 2009 - Company C (although that doesn't matter when you put in N400)
N-400 Approved & Sworn in as USC December 2009
mcq
H1-B transfer to Company B July 2000
Labour Applied April 2001 - Company B
I-485 Applied June 2002 - Company B
AC21 invoked February 2003 - Company C
GC Approved (after 2 RFE) November 2004 - Company C
N-400 Applied August 2009 - Company C (although that doesn't matter when you put in N400)
N-400 Approved & Sworn in as USC December 2009
mcq
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gene77
04-12 11:45 PM
Nothing yet, RFE response received is all. Waiting ..
Got the card production e-mail today, thank you everyone for your endless support the past 7 years.
Got the card production e-mail today, thank you everyone for your endless support the past 7 years.
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ilwaiting
04-25 10:28 AM
I was and is always a believer that PD should be the date a person started working on H1B. In this way fair treatment can be given to immigrants who are here "legally" and paying tens and thousands of dollars in taxes each year. The current immigration reform is broken. I was working in US since 1998 and was on H1B status since then. Due to simple twist of fate I had to move because my old employer was not doing well. I'm sure there are thousands of others like me.
In enacting this law it would actually help USCIS itself help them in adjudicating cases. Moreover USCIS has complete entry exit record of employees and easy to adjudicate who was in or out of status on H1B/or any work visa.
Think about it. When USCIS can allow a person who came in 2004/2005 get ahead me in the EB queue simply by using a substituted labor with an older PD and jumping in front of queue before me which "I think is unfair". I wonder why USCIS can't justify giving PD based on when a person started working on H1B visa(dual intent visa).
Mind boggling and troubling immigration laws :confused:
Does it make sense to request for first arrival date to be considered as the priority date for immigration purposes? Just a thought!!!
In enacting this law it would actually help USCIS itself help them in adjudicating cases. Moreover USCIS has complete entry exit record of employees and easy to adjudicate who was in or out of status on H1B/or any work visa.
Think about it. When USCIS can allow a person who came in 2004/2005 get ahead me in the EB queue simply by using a substituted labor with an older PD and jumping in front of queue before me which "I think is unfair". I wonder why USCIS can't justify giving PD based on when a person started working on H1B visa(dual intent visa).
Mind boggling and troubling immigration laws :confused:
Does it make sense to request for first arrival date to be considered as the priority date for immigration purposes? Just a thought!!!
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needhelp!
09-13 02:07 PM
Just mailed out letters to nine more radio/tv/news media addresses in Texas that AILA media site didn't allow email for. I hope USPS will deliver by tomorrow??
texanmom, I did a few Houston/Austin emails as well.
texanmom, I did a few Houston/Austin emails as well.
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ramus
07-06 12:20 PM
Thank you.. I am sure this thread is going to get more and more visits..
I have changed the thread title.
I have changed the thread title.
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glamzon
07-20 02:54 PM
^^^^^^^ is this true?
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05-25 10:08 AM
yes it has been
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pappu
11-16 12:31 PM
nice write-up Jimi
Congratulations Jimi
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=86f99ab1b7774fc7f6a26 f10eb4183ba
Congratulations Jimi
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=86f99ab1b7774fc7f6a26 f10eb4183ba
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adde72
07-05 11:13 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/06/us/06visa.html?hp
Can someone please put this on digg?
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To complete the applications in time, the immigration agency put employees to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, immigration officials said. They said that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday’s deadline.
In some cases, security clearances required by the F.B.I. were not entirely completed, immigration officials said. The agency approved some applications “when we were certain the process will be completed very shortly,” Mr. Aytes said.
*****
Excellent article
Can someone please put this on digg?
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To complete the applications in time, the immigration agency put employees to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, immigration officials said. They said that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday’s deadline.
In some cases, security clearances required by the F.B.I. were not entirely completed, immigration officials said. The agency approved some applications “when we were certain the process will be completed very shortly,” Mr. Aytes said.
*****
Excellent article
CADude
10-27 01:20 PM
I sent the email to ombudsman. Thanks for PM.
mirage
08-04 03:38 PM
I'm not getting what's your point. All I am telling this guy and others that I need some statistics and why it is important to me. People who like my point will write them and people who will not like my point but still have the problem will modify the letter accordingly and people who should not care since they are not affected should just ignore this thread and move....
Did you go over points raised by internet in this post
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=271211&postcount=12
Did you go over points raised by internet in this post
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=271211&postcount=12
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